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Beerus, Whis, and Rigor Power Comparison by MalikStudios Beerus, Whis, and Rigor Power Comparison by MalikStudios
This question CONSTANTLY comes up: "Who is stronger, Bills or Rigor?" "Who would win, Whis or Rigor?" and so on and so on...

Based on the power levels MightyOozaru and I came up with, these are the finalized power levels of each of these characters, to set the record straight. The levels for Rigor are for when he first arrives on Earth, and in his physical prime (no power shock).

Beerus and Whis are (c) Akira Toriyama
Rigor is (c) me
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YoshiCrusader Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
I think when the God's said that regular Ki doesn't work on them, they meant energy attacks. Physical attacks still hurt them, as seen when Vegeta got mad and made Bills bleed from a physical attack (after Bulma got slapped).
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Codiy Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2014
Vegeta was tapping into his god ki when that happened so it's different. Though you are correct, physical hits, whether they are from gods or otherwise could absolutely hurt him. But using Vegeta as an example isn't a good move as he was tapping into God Ki when it happened.
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YoshiCrusader Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
So character can just generate God Ki when they're angry/desperate enough?
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Codiy Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2014
Idk. Apparently it depends.
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megashadowmew Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm not going to lie... Rigor is screaming Gary-Stu based on this scale ^^;
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MalikStudios Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014  Professional General Artist
Wow that word gets tossed around a lot.

Just because someone is powerful doesn't make them a Stu. If such is the case, then in the actual canon Beerus and Whis are both Stus. Almost all the important DB characters (both villains and good guys) have at one time or another shared traits that would cause them to be labeled a MS/GS.

But when you widen it you do end up making everybody a Sue. Take that test with Goku. Take it with Batman. They all come up as dangerously Mary Sue. That's because the test misses the point that the definition is conditional. A character's attributes alone don't make a Mary Sue. A character's attributes in relation to the rest of the story is what matters. A character could be the last of his kind, loved by all, and the most powerful being on Earth but still wouldn't be a Mary Sue if their existence doesn't come at the expense of other characters or the story. (Interestingly, in Goku's case it does come at the expense of other characters but most people don't call him a Mary Sue).

Besides, lets say you widen the definition and start catching more characters in the net. Well, some of those characters you catch may not be so bad, right? After all, whether he fits the definition or not, Goku isn't a bad character. He doesn't hurt Dragon Ball or not fit properly, does he? So what's the point then? Just to be able to call someone a Mary Sue even though they don't do any harm? At that point it stops being a criticism and just becomes a descriptor.

It always is a case of attributes + scenario + effect on the story = X. In most anime/manga a main character, by attributes alone, can almost always be considered a mary sue. They often are regarded as the last/only hope, they tend to be the most powerful, they are capable of learning techniques/abilities that no one else could, they have abilities/techniques/attributes that make them wholly unique from the others, they are often the deciding factor in the most important battles, they rarely if ever die or cannot be killed, etc etc etc. Guys like Goku, Alucard, Ichigo, Naruto, Sasuke, etc etc all fit these attributes. But going by the scenarios those particular characters are in and their effects on the story, the picture becomes more clear.
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megashadowmew Featured By Owner Jun 4, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
You make a fine point

I see Goku as a bit of a gary stu

But, what you have said makes sense. And that "equation" is actually pretty accurate

I'm sorry if I upset you
I suppose you hear the same thing a lot, don't you? :(
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Codiy Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2014
If Goku was a Gary Stu he wouldn't have died at all in the series and would be incredibly smart.

He has died twice and is a moron when it comes to things that do not include fighting. A Gary Stu would be perfect in all things.

And considering that Rigor is an antagonist in this story? He isn't going to be top dog for long.
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megashadowmew Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
a character does not necessarily have to be perfect in every possible way to be considered a Gary-Stu
they just have to be perfect at what they do. 

Goku isn't a full blown Gary-Stu by any means
that would probably Broly lol

True enough
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Codiy Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2014
Broly isn't a full blown Gary Stu either. He is virtually mindless, died, and is outclassed by SSJ2 and up.
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