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Tectorman Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2015
Question: Does the Supreme Kai of Time exist in this series?  If so, which tier of god would she fall into?
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MalikStudios Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2015  Professional General Artist
No. She's a non-canon game character exclusive to the DBO/XV canon
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PerfectMewtwo145 Featured By Owner May 13, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Actually Xenoverse exists separate from the 12 universes, which is why the GT universe exist in the game.
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Halowing Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
So many higher god levels
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SchattenLotus Featured By Owner Feb 9, 2015
Still not being completely equal to Dragonball Multiverse ^^
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Retardskull Featured By Owner Edited Aug 18, 2014
I would have thought that the Makaioshin belong in the tier with the Kaioshin, and the original manga seems to hint that they are the opposite of the Kaioshin for the evil half of the universe, but the Hakaishin complicate things. They could all be in the same tier; maybe the Makaioshin are simply creator gods for the dark energy half of each universe. The Hakaishin are specifically destruction gods to clean up the universe, but don't function as the "demon" counterpart to the Kaioshin, instead being the "destruction" counterpart.

It's in the name; the prefix "ma" makes Makaioshin literally mean "demon Kaioshin". Their role as an alternate in the same tier makes a lot of sense then.

Battle of Gods puts the Hakaishin in the same tier as the Kaioshin but having an opposite role, but this doesn't mean that the Makaioshin aren't also in the same tier, but opposite from the Kaioshin in a different sense (as the original manga says).

Reconciling BoG and the original manga would put them all in the same point of the hierarchy, triangulating each other.

Here's one possible scheme:
Kaioshin: creator gods for the light (maybe regular reiki in your verse?) half of each universe.
Makaioshin: creator/governing gods for the dark (dark reiki) half of each universe.
Hakaishin: destruction gods for each universe in general, being the counterpart to BOTH the Kaioshin and Makaioshin in the sense of having that specific role.

What do you think?
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Ezzy-as-it-is Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2014  Hobbyist Filmographer
will there be test on this later? and my dog ate my homework
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bluestreak50 Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2014
Ya know, with all this talk of Reiki, I'm a little surprised The Yu Yu Hakushocast hasn't shown up to help, heheh...little crossover Joke there. Anyway...BATTLE OF GODS REFERENCE FTW!
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ap1000482 Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2014
I would also like to say, bills and whis are above the kais, and bills is the god of destruction, whis is the creation god,  so im pretty sure there the highest tier,
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MalikStudios Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2014  Professional General Artist
actually, the Kaioshin are confirmed to be the creator gods. Whis is like a souped up Mr. Pop. He's the attendant and trainer of each successive God of Destruction
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ap1000482 Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2014
I guess but anyway either way you story still fits in the manga andim happy because we will be able to fit in, but sad to say god rivals ss4 gogeta @_@ ikr kinda stupid,
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ap1000482 Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2014
battle of god omg I truly love you malik, this can so fit in with series
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TheWon Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2013
THis is what I'm talking about! Good Job!
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Apope1999 Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2013
Wait, what's a Shinigami? And does Korin count too? Are you using those(+BoG)and we;re get ore explanations along the way or...... And what exactly is Whis O.o?!
Wait are you using Toriyama from that one Guidebook, hmmmmmmmmm...........
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MalikStudios Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2013  Professional General Artist
Shinigami are Death Gods, the beings that govern over the dead. In Universe 7, Lord Enma (King Yemma) is Shingami. Karin is technically a Local God. Whis is considered to be the Attendant and Trainer of Hakaishin, much like Mr. Popo is to the Kami of Earth. He ranks the same as a Hakaishin.
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SchattenLotus Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2014
This Story of Yours is literally getting bigger than Life, Malik ... ... lulz :XD: :lol:
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Apope1999 Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2013
What exactly is Korin then? And what about Toriyama O.o?
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MalikStudios Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2013  Professional General Artist
Karin is deemed a Local God. Toriyama is the comic's original author
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Apope1999 Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2013
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MalikStudios Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2013  Professional General Artist
yes, i was aware of that, but it is put into the context of being the creator of the series aka the "god" of the series. He's not included in the hierarchy of gods themselves in DBNA
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Apope1999 Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2013
Ooooooook, if you  take it into context like that, ok. "sigh" I think I forgot something here...Anyway, what about these New "Gods";How Strong are They,Which Realms do they Rule(Powers etc.), and, still, is there no"Superior Being", or something that Rules even them(Y'know, to keep the Universe(s) in Balance etc.)? Wait, how were they even born O.o?!
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Alnoor98 Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2013
First of all I'd like to say I'm a huge fan of you doujin! The only reason I made an account on this website was because of you. Your understanding of Dragonball is absolutely amazing and I love how you made and explained both Reki and this system of Gods. But I was wondering where Whis fits in on all of this? Also, I was wondering if you believe Bills or Whis is stronger than ssj4 Gogeta?
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MalikStudios Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2013  Professional General Artist

Whis is sort of like the Mr. Popo to the God of Destruction. He's been the attendant and trainer of Destroyer Gods for generations.

I believe that SSJ4 Gogeta may be on par with Whis or Bills, but its difficult to say. Whis and Bills' powers are still relatively unknown, but they even say at the end of BoG that "someday Goku and Vegeta will become fearsome foes".

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Alnoor98 Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2013
So Whis is equal to hakaishin/kaioshin ?
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MalikStudios Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2013  Professional General Artist
technically, though he is considered neither
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dragons4life Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
that does it wow i am getting this when it comes out....I hope someone important finds out about this. people such as the creators of the series
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BlackKusanagi Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013  Student General Artist
Bro. Just when I dont think you can be moar awesome with this story... goddammit you do it again.
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MalikStudios Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013  Professional General Artist
Ah, you flatter me sir
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HulktySSJ2 Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
I like how you fit Battle of Gods into your storyline.
So with this, your saying that Bills is the next level of God above the Supreme Kais? ...and there is STILL one more level above them?!
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MalikStudios Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013  Professional General Artist
No, Bills is a Hakaishin and therefore sits in the same tier as the Supreme Kais, despite having a higher power than them. He is a destroyer God just as the Supreme Kais are creator Gods
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HulktySSJ2 Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Okay, but still...are you STILL saying there's a level above even Bills and the Supreme Kais in your story?
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MalikStudios Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013  Professional General Artist
The Dai Kaioshin sits above Bills and the Supreme Kais. Anything above that, you'll just have to keep reading ^_^
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Shodai-Umikage Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013
One more question. Do you think the Dai Kaioshin was stronger then Bills? (the one that fought Buu)
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MalikStudios Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013  Professional General Artist
Doubtful. The Dai Kaioshin is strong, but to put it in perspective: In each Universe, there are 5 creator Gods, but only 1 God of Destruction. It only takes one God of Destruction to undo what 5 Creator Gods do. That's some serious power
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Shodai-Umikage Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013
Yeah that makes sense. Okie dokie thanks.
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MalikStudios Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013  Professional General Artist
np
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HulktySSJ2 Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Damn... so are these new Gods stronger than Bills and Wiss?
If so, does that also mean you consider SSj4 stronger than SSjGod in your series?
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MalikStudios Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013  Professional General Artist
you'll see
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:iconhulktyssj2:
HulktySSJ2 Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
:/ ...gonna make me wait?...
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:iconmalikstudios:
MalikStudios Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2013  Professional General Artist
Spoilers son! LMAO
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Shodai-Umikage Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013
I have one question about the Battle of Gods thing. Why doesnt Goku have SSJG powers anymore? Forgive me if you have said the answer already I either missed it or dont remember.
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MalikStudios Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013  Professional General Artist
An alteration to the movie. Those powers faded away.
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Shodai-Umikage Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013
Ok. Is there any chance we get to see Bills? That would be awesome! Yeah I know we wont.
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MalikStudios Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013  Professional General Artist
I think this Saga will fill all your Godly destroyer needs ^_^
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:iconshodai-umikage:
Shodai-Umikage Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013
Yeah? Thats awesome! Your comic is truly the best one out there. Even better than DBM. (IMHO)
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MalikStudios Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013  Professional General Artist
aww thanks!
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alexisaiello Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013
Seems you took some elements from Battle of gods. Could you explain who are the shinigami?
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MalikStudios Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013  Professional General Artist
Shinigami (Death God) are beings who govern over the dead. The Shinigami of Universe 7 is Lord Enma (King Yemma)
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RandomSketchGeek247 Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013
Very, very cool :D
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UltraJohn567 Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2013
So is Battle of Gods canon in your version of Dragonball?
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