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DBNA Small Scale Power Comparison by MalikStudios DBNA Small Scale Power Comparison by MalikStudios
After lengthy discussions and recalculating, I came up with this chart, using the 'Small Numbers Rankings' Akira Toriyama gave for SSJ God Goku, Whis, and Beerus, to do a bit of a more 'accurate' power chart.

This chart, I think better than any I did before, demonstrates the overwhelming strength of Beerus and Whis  in comparison to GT powerhouses.

In my estimation, I believe GT Gogeta could fight on relatively equal grounds with Beerus, but get stomped by Whis. Even in DBNA, Son Goku and Vegeta's powers (less than 1) are nowhere near Beerus and Whis, and even the mighty Rigor only ranks a 2 in his base form in comparison to Beerus' 10. It also demonstrates how much of a buffer the SSJ5 transformation grants Rigor in his prime, showing why this is the 2nd most powerful form next to SSJ God.

For the record, though he is not listed, I only rank Omega Shenron a 3
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KareemMohammad Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2014
If SSJ God returns in DBNA where would you rank him?
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Dreadent Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2014
That Makes me wonder how strong DBM Final Dragon Flash SSJ3 Vegetto is. I used Malik's multiplier methods, and I got 1 quadrillion, considering DBM vegetto is much stronger than canon Vegetto, which doesn't surprise me.
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Alnoor98 Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2014
Where would you put Xicor? Like in your own honest opinion.
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MalikStudios Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2014  Professional General Artist
No idea, seeing as we don't know all of Xicor's abilities despite his new transformation being revealed. Plus, I didn't create him, so I don't know how powerful Toyble intended him to be
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Alnoor98 Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014
How much would a SSJ3 Vegito form the Buu saga be?
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Gamingrealitytech Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2014  Student Digital Artist
That would probably be 2-3.
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KamikazeW Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2014
Interesting, and good to know you don't undervalue BotG characters compared to GT like a lot of fans seem to, while still making DBNA powerhouses credibly threatening by having them above even that.

Though the gap between SSJ4 Goku and Vegeta, and SSJ4 Gogeta, seems...a bit much. I mean, fusion is a hell of a power boost, but...THAT much?
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DeatheKi Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2014
Ok I have to ask. What is the Rival Boost exactly?
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MalikStudios Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2014  Professional General Artist
well, by simple mathematics, Gogeta is certainly far above Goku and Vegeta. I mean, let's look at my numbers for GT SSJ4 Goku, Vegeta, and Gogeta

I rank SSJ4 Goku and Vegeta at around 1 trillion each. In my equations, the normal Fusion Dance factors into Power A + Power B x 5 = Fusion Power C. However, I personally believe the 'Rival Boost' Goku and Vegeta got from the Potara Earrings affects their regular fusion too, so their equation is Power A + Power B x 50 = Fusion Power C.

So, 1 trillion + 1 trillion = 2 trillion. 2 trillion x 50 = 100 trillion.

So yes, by the factors, SSJ4 Gogeta is (at least in my opinion) around 100 times stronger than either SSJ4 Goku or SSJ4 Vegeta alone.

One of the main reason I believe in the Rivalry Boost for the regular Fusion, unfortunately, comes from The Fusion Reborn movie. I personally hate trying to come up with numbers and such using the movies, but I needed some kind of base to go off, and this movie is the only source I could compare.

I figure Goku has a PL of around 80 million in Fusion Reborn, as it takes place (supposedly) after the Majin Boo Saga (around 9 days AFTER the Budokai all the fighters attended before Boo showed up, according to Videl's watch). This means his SSJ3 form has a PL of 32 billion. In order for Super Janemba to decimate him like he did, He would have to have a PL of around 43-45 billion, possibly even 50 billion. If Goku and Vegeta (who is around the same strength as Goku at the time) were to fuse with the normal equation and turn Super Saiyan, they would only have a PL of around 40 billion, nowhere near enough to dominate Janemba so easily, especially to not even flinch when Janemba punched him. With the rival boost, Super Gogeta had a PL of around 400 billion, easily enough to annihilate Janemba.

But again, this is just my opinion, but it's what I use
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KamikazeW Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2014
Well, I suppose that works as a system. I mean, it's not like any parameters for the exact boost given by the different types of fusion were given during the actual series.

Though you don't have to resort to movies to prove the rival boost thing--Old Kai has a line stating it exists in the manga/anime.

Though if you've got base Buu saga Goku at 80 million and SSJ3 at 32 billion, can I assume you're using the Daizenshuu/V-Jump x50/x2/x4 numbers? If so, I'd caution against putting too much trust in them, completely non-canon and meaningless as they are.

But saying that, there's nothing inherently wrong with those numbers, and while they can't be proven right they can't be proven wrong either (they're reasonably logical guesses), and since you're just stating this, as you say, as your opinion and not any kind of canon fact, I guess it's fine.

Anyway, thanks for taking the time to respond.
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